Leadership 2050: Andrew White and Dr Vivienne Ming

'Live a life that makes other people’s lives better.'

I know what it’s like to not to know where your next meal is coming from or to have given up entirely, so that gives me a different perspective on what it means to be a CEO or someone in a position to make a difference.

In episode 2, Andrew talks to Dr Vivienne Ming, theoretical neuroscientist and AI visionary, about the power of sacrifice, and using science to make a positive difference in the world.

Vivienne calls herself a 'professional mad scientist' who is dedicated to solving some of the world's most pressing problems. In 2017 she created Socos Labs, which she calls a 'philanthropic laboratory'. Socos is an independent think tank and incubator that uses machine learning, neuroscience and economics to explore the future of human potential.

Her path to being on the vanguard of new thinking has not been straightforward, or always easy. But it has made her a leader who puts the wellbeing of others at the heart of everything she does.

In conversation with Andrew, Vivienne shares: 'People bring me problems and if my team and I think we can make a meaningful difference we try to come up with a solution. And then if we succeed we just give it away. Turns out it’s the worst start-up idea ever!'

Leadership 2050 is a podcast exploring the leadership we need to successfully transition to 2050. Who are the innovators setting the agenda for a more equal and sustainable future? In each episode Andrew talks to a visionary leader from the business community who is confronting the challenges humanity faces and finding solutions.   


Andrew's research and teaching focuses on how leaders transcend 21st century challenges such as disruptive technology change and the climate crisis. Also, how they create cultures that are diverse, inclusive, resilient and high performing, alongside the ongoing challenge of delivering profitable growth. At Oxford he directs the Oxford Advanced Management Leadership Programme and works with leaders from industry and governments across the world.